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SUPPORT, ESPECIALLY FROM BLACK VOTERS THERE, WHO ARE THE BASE
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VOTERS THERE, WHO ARE THE BASE OF HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN.
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OF HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN. BUT AGAIN, THE CRAZY THING IS,
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BUT AGAIN, THE CRAZY THING IS, AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS, IT’S
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AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS, IT’S BERNIE SANDERS WHO’S RUNNING
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BERNIE SANDERS WHO’S RUNNING AWAY FROMW THIS NOMINATION FIGHT
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AWAY FROMW THIS NOMINATION FIGHT RIGHT NOW IN THE EARLY STAGES,
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RIGHT NOW IN THE EARLY STAGES, AND NOBODY ON THE DEBATE STAGE
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AND NOBODY ON THE DEBATE STAGE SEEMED TO NOTICE THAT THE OTHER
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SEEMED TO NOTICE THAT THE OTHER NIGHT.
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NIGHT. >> NO, THEY DIDN’T.
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>> NO, THEY DIDN’T. THEY ALL WENT AFTER BLOOMBERG
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THEY ALL WENT AFTER BLOOMBERG AND THEY BEAT HIM UP, PRETTY
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AND THEY BEAT HIM UP, PRETTY GOOD.
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GOOD. BUT MEANWHILE, BERNIE SANDERS
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BUT MEANWHILE, BERNIE SANDERS GOT AWAY BASICALLY UNSCATHED.
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GOT AWAY BASICALLY UNSCATHED. I MEAN, THE, YOU KNOW, BLOOMBERG
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I MEAN, THE, YOU KNOW, BLOOMBERG DID HIT HIM FOR HAVING THREE
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DID HIT HIM FOR HAVING THREE HOUSES, AND THEN THEY GOT HIM --
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HOUSES, AND THEN THEY GOT HIM -- THEY CRITICIZED HIM ON A COUPLE
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THEY CRITICIZED HIM ON A COUPLE OF ISSUES ON MEDICARE FOR ALL.
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OF ISSUES ON MEDICARE FOR ALL. BUT HE WAS NOT THE FOCUS OF THE
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BUT HE WAS NOT THE FOCUS OF THE ATTACKS COMING FROM WARREN AND
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ATTACKS COMING FROM WARREN AND BUTTIGIEG AND BIDEN AND
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BUTTIGIEG AND BIDEN AND KLOBUCHAR.
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KLOBUCHAR. AND I’M WONDERING WHY, NOT
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AND I’M WONDERING WHY, NOT BECAUSE I’M NOT -- I’M NOT
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BECAUSE I’M NOT -- I’M NOT PICKING A HORSE IN THIS FIGHT.
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PICKING A HORSE IN THIS FIGHT. I’M JUST SAYING I THINK IT SEEMS
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I’M JUST SAYING I THINK IT SEEMS TO ME YOU’D WANT TO TAKE DOWN
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TO ME YOU’D WANT TO TAKE DOWN THE GUY WHO’S THREATENING TO RUN
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THE GUY WHO’S THREATENING TO RUN AWAY WITH THIS NOMINATION.
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AWAY WITH THIS NOMINATION. EVERYONE CAN READ THE POLLS, AND
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EVERYONE CAN READ THE POLLS, AND THE POLLS SHOW OR PREDICT THAT
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THE POLLS SHOW OR PREDICT THAT BERNIE SANDERS COULD EMERGE FROM
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BERNIE SANDERS COULD EMERGE FROM SUPER TUESDAY WITH A SUBSTANTIAL
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SUPER TUESDAY WITH A SUBSTANTIAL DELEGATE LEAD.
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DELEGATE LEAD. AND THE KIND OF DOLEGAT LEAD
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AND THE KIND OF DOLEGAT LEAD THAT IT WILL BE VERY, VERY
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THAT IT WILL BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR ANYBODY TO CLAW
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DIFFICULT FOR ANYBODY TO CLAW BACK IN THE SUCCESS OF
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BACK IN THE SUCCESS OF PRIMARIES, INCLUDING MICHAEL
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PRIMARIES, INCLUDING MICHAEL BLOOMBERG WITH HIS -- WITH ALL
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BLOOMBERG WITH HIS -- WITH ALL HIS BILLIONS.
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HIS BILLIONS. IT’S JUST -- JUST LOOK AT THE
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IT’S JUST -- JUST LOOK AT THE MATH.
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MATH. WE KNOW HOW IT WORKS.
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WE KNOW HOW IT WORKS. AND IN THE DEMOCRATIC RACE WHERE
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AND IN THE DEMOCRATIC RACE WHERE EVERYTHING IS PROPORTIONAL, IF
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EVERYTHING IS PROPORTIONAL, IF YOU GET A BIG LEAD, IT’S REALLY
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YOU GET A BIG LEAD, IT’S REALLY HARD FOR ANYBODY ELSE TO CATCH
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HARD FOR ANYBODY ELSE TO CATCH YOU.
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YOU. SO I JUST WONDERED WHY MORE FIRE
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SO I JUST WONDERED WHY MORE FIRE WASN’T TRAINED AGAINST THE GUY
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WASN’T TRAINED AGAINST THE GUY WHO IS THREATENING TO JUST RUN
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WHO IS THREATENING TO JUST RUN AWAY.
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AWAY. >> WILLIE, NICOLE WALLACE
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>> WILLIE, NICOLE WALLACE YESTERDAY WAS TALKING ABOUT --
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YESTERDAY WAS TALKING ABOUT -- SHE WAS HAVING THESE TERRIBLE
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SHE WAS HAVING THESE TERRIBLE FLASHBACKS OF 2016.
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FLASHBACKS OF 2016. THIS IS JUST LIKE THE REPUBLICAN
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THIS IS JUST LIKE THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FIGHT IN 2016, YOU
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NOMINATION FIGHT IN 2016, YOU HAD DONALD TRUMP WHO WAS
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HAD DONALD TRUMP WHO WAS OBVIOUSLY THE PERSON EVERYBODY
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OBVIOUSLY THE PERSON EVERYBODY NEEDED TO WORRY ABOUT, BUT YOU
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NEEDED TO WORRY ABOUT, BUT YOU HAD MARCO AND JEB GOING AFTER
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HAD MARCO AND JEB GOING AFTER EACH OTHER.
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EACH OTHER. YOU HAD CHRIS CHRISTY ATTACKING
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YOU HAD CHRIS CHRISTY ATTACKING MARCO.
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MARCO. YOU HAD TED CRUZ GOING AFTER
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YOU HAD TED CRUZ GOING AFTER JEB.
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JEB. REMEMBER, THERE WAS A LONG
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REMEMBER, THERE WAS A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WHEN TED CRUZ
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PERIOD OF TIME WHEN TED CRUZ REFUSED TO ATTACK DONALD TRUMP.
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REFUSED TO ATTACK DONALD TRUMP. AND IT WASN’T UNTIL THEY WERE
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AND IT WASN’T UNTIL THEY WERE TWO OF THE LAST PEOPLE IN THE
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TWO OF THE LAST PEOPLE IN THE FIELD THAT THEY FINALLY STARTED
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FIELD THAT THEY FINALLY STARTED TO DO THAT.
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TO DO THAT. BUT YOU LOOK AT A SPATE OF POLLS
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BUT YOU LOOK AT A SPATE OF POLLS THAT CAME OUT YID, AND IT’S
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THAT CAME OUT YID, AND IT’S STILL NOT TOO LATE.
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STILL NOT TOO LATE. CALIFORNIA, THERE’S A CALIFORNIA
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CALIFORNIA, THERE’S A CALIFORNIA POLL THAT SHOWED BIDEN AND
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POLL THAT SHOWED BIDEN AND BLOOMBERG AND SANDERS BUNCHED UP
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BLOOMBERG AND SANDERS BUNCHED UP NEAR THE TOP.
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NEAR THE TOP. YOU HAD A TEXAS POLL THAT CAME
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YOU HAD A TEXAS POLL THAT CAME OUT THAT SHOWED ABOUT THE SAME
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OUT THAT SHOWED ABOUT THE SAME THING.
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THING. OBVIOUSLY SANDERS MORE COMABLY
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OBVIOUSLY SANDERS MORE COMABLY AHEAD THERE.
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AHEAD THERE. BUT BIDEN STILL GETTING SOME
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BUT BIDEN STILL GETTING SOME POINTS IN IN TEXAS, THE SAME
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POINTS IN IN TEXAS, THE SAME THING, IT WAS A CLOSER MATCHUP.
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THING, IT WAS A CLOSER MATCHUP. AND SOUTH CAROLINA IS STILL
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AND SOUTH CAROLINA IS STILL PRETTY TIGHT.
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PRETTY TIGHT. SO THERE’S STILL A WINDOW FOR
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SO THERE’S STILL A WINDOW FOR ALL THESE CANDIDATES TO
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ALL THESE CANDIDATES TO CHALLENGE BERNIE SANDERS.
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CHALLENGE BERNIE SANDERS. BUT ELIZABETH WARREN ESPECIALLY
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BUT ELIZABETH WARREN ESPECIALLY DOESN’T SEEM TO WANT TO TAKE HIM
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DOESN’T SEEM TO WANT TO TAKE HIM ON.
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ON. IT’S JUST ALL THE FIRE IS AIMED
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IT’S JUST ALL THE FIRE IS AIMED AT MODERATES AND THE MODERATES
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AT MODERATES AND THE MODERATES ARE SHOOTING AT EACH OTHER AS
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ARE SHOOTING AT EACH OTHER AS WELL.
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WELL. >> IT DOES FEEL A LITTLE LIKE
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>> IT DOES FEEL A LITTLE LIKE 2016, NIKKOLE IS RIGHT WHERE YOU
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2016, NIKKOLE IS RIGHT WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE TRYING TO VANK WISH
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HAVE PEOPLE TRYING TO VANK WISH EACH OTHER THINKING THEY’LL BE
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EACH OTHER THINKING THEY’LL BE THE ONES TO GET TO THAT MATCHUP.
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THE ONES TO GET TO THAT MATCHUP. BY THE TIME YOU WANK WISH
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BY THE TIME YOU WANK WISH EVERYBODY WHO’S NOT BERNIE
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EVERYBODY WHO’S NOT BERNIE SANDERS, HE’S THE NOMINEE.
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SANDERS, HE’S THE NOMINEE. WE SHOULD LOOK CLOSELY AT THE
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WE SHOULD LOOK CLOSELY AT THE AFTERNOON AMERICAN VOTE.
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AFTERNOON AMERICAN VOTE. THERE’S A NEW "WALL STREET
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THERE’S A NEW "WALL STREET JOURNAL" NBC POLL OUT THIS
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JOURNAL" NBC POLL OUT THIS MORNING THAT SHOWS BERNIE
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MORNING THAT SHOWS BERNIE SANDERS HAS CAUGHT JOE BIDEN
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SANDERS HAS CAUGHT JOE BIDEN AMONG BLACK VOTERS.
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AMONG BLACK VOTERS. REMEMBER, THAT SPREAD WAS 30
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REMEMBER, THAT SPREAD WAS 30 POINTS AT SOME POINT LAST YEAR.
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POINTS AT SOME POINT LAST YEAR. WHEN YOU LOOK INSIDE THAT, JOE
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WHEN YOU LOOK INSIDE THAT, JOE AND MIKA JUST READ THAT NUMBER,
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AND MIKA JUST READ THAT NUMBER, HE’S CREEPING UP THERE TOO.
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HE’S CREEPING UP THERE TOO. THOSE VOTERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA
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THOSE VOTERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA ARE WATCHING WHAT’S HAPPENING AS
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ARE WATCHING WHAT’S HAPPENING AS MANY PEOPLE KNEW WHAT WOULD TAKE
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MANY PEOPLE KNEW WHAT WOULD TAKE PLACE.
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PLACE. THEY WEREN’T GOING TO BE STATIC
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THEY WEREN’T GOING TO BE STATIC VOTERS FOR JOE BIDEN.
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VOTERS FOR JOE BIDEN. THEY’RE WATCHING NEVADA AND SAY,
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THEY’RE WATCHING NEVADA AND SAY, I DON’T WANT TO BACK A LOSING
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I DON’T WANT TO BACK A LOSING HORSE.
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HORSE. SO YOU’VE SEEN BERNIE SANDERS
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SO YOU’VE SEEN BERNIE SANDERS NOW CLIMB STEADILY AMONG THOSE
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NOW CLIMB STEADILY AMONG THOSE ALL-IMPORTANT AFRICAN-AMERICAN
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ALL-IMPORTANT AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS AS WELL.
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VOTERS AS WELL. >> YEAH.
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>> YEAH. AND THIS WAS SORT OF
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AND THIS WAS SORT OF PREDICTABLE.
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PREDICTABLE. THIS IS WHAT WE’VE SEEN FROM
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THIS IS WHAT WE’VE SEEN FROM AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS IN SOUTH
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AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND ELSEWHERE
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CAROLINA AND ELSEWHERE HISTORICALLY.
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HISTORICALLY. I THINK THEY’RE BEING VERY SORT
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I THINK THEY’RE BEING VERY SORT OF PRAGMATIC AND TACTICAL,
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OF PRAGMATIC AND TACTICAL, STRATEGIC, ABOUT THIS ELECTION.
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STRATEGIC, ABOUT THIS ELECTION. THEY WANT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
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THEY WANT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY WHO CAN
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TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY WHO CAN BEAT DONALD TRUMP.
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BEAT DONALD TRUMP. AND WITH JOE BIDEN’S POOR
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AND WITH JOE BIDEN’S POOR FINISHES IN THE FIRST COUPLE
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FINISHES IN THE FIRST COUPLE PRIMARIES AND SOME OF HIS POOR
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PRIMARIES AND SOME OF HIS POOR DEBATE PERFORMANCES, HE WAS MUCH
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DEBATE PERFORMANCES, HE WAS MUCH BETTER THE OTHER NIGHT, BUT HE’S
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BETTER THE OTHER NIGHT, BUT HE’S HAD SOME PRETTY AWFUL ONES.
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HAD SOME PRETTY AWFUL ONES. AND PEOPLE JUST STARTED TAKING
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AND PEOPLE JUST STARTED TAKING ANOTHER LOOK AROUND, AND THEN
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ANOTHER LOOK AROUND, AND THEN YOU’VE GOT BERNIE SANDERS.
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YOU’VE GOT BERNIE SANDERS. MEANWHILE THERE IS A
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MEANWHILE THERE IS A GENERATIONAL DIVIDE AMONG
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GENERATIONAL DIVIDE AMONG AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS.
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AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS. YOU HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG
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YOU HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG AFRICAN-AMERICANS JUST LIKE A
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AFRICAN-AMERICANS JUST LIKE A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE IN GENERAL
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LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE IN GENERAL WHO ARE BERNIE SANDERS
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WHO ARE BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTERS.
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SUPPORTERS. THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK
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THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK WAY AHEAD TO THE FALL, ONE OF
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WAY AHEAD TO THE FALL, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS, THEY’RE NOT
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THE PROBLEMS, THEY’RE NOT NECESSARILY THE MOST RELIABLE
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NECESSARILY THE MOST RELIABLE VOTERS.
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VOTERS. THEY DON’T COME OUT IN SUCH
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THEY DON’T COME OUT IN SUCH LARGE NUMBERS.
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LARGE NUMBERS. AND BERNIE SANDERS’ CLAIM TO
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AND BERNIE SANDERS’ CLAIM TO RADICALLY ENLARGE THE ELECTORATE
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RADICALLY ENLARGE THE ELECTORATE BY BRINGING ALL THESE YOUNG AND
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BY BRINGING ALL THESE YOUNG AND FIRST-TIME VOTERS OUT AS THE WAY
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FIRST-TIME VOTERS OUT AS THE WAY HE’S GOING TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP,
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HE’S GOING TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP, WE HAVEN’T SEEN THAT IN THE