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SPECIAL PROSECUTOR FROM
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SPEAKER PELOSI TODAY WHO
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ATTACKED THE AG'S CHARACTER.
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>> IF SOMEBODY LIKE LEV PARNAS
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CAME FORWARD, AND THERE WAS
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EVIDENCE THERE WAS REASON TO
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BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS SOME OF
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THAT THAT WAS FACTUAL, THERE
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WOULD BE A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR
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APPOINTED.
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DOES ANYBODY THINK THAT THE
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ROGUE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS GOING
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TO SUPPORT, POINT A SPECIAL
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PROSECUTOR?
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NO, BECAUSE HE IS IMPLICATED IN
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ALL OF THIS.
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THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF ALL OF THE
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PRESIDENTS.
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>> Martha: TREY GOWDY COME AT
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THE EXECUTIVE CHAIRMAN AND
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FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR.
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ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU, TRACY,
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WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO WHAT
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SPEAKER PELOSI HAD TO SAY THERE?
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>> A LOT OF IF'S AND THAT
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SENTENCE.
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I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS A LOGIC
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QUESTION.
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THERE HAS TO BE A SPECIAL CRIME
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TO BE APPOINTED.
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YOU ARE NOT POINTED TO LOOK INTO
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IT UNLESS THERE IS A CRIME.
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THE ONLY CRIMES I HAVE HEARD
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ALLEGED AGAINST BILL BARR'S NAME
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MENTIONED AND A TRANSCRIPT IN
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THE CONVERSATION HE DID NOT
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PARTICIPATE IN AND MOST
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RECENTLY, HE MAY BE FRIENDS WITH
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RUDY GIULIANI BEFORE.
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I'M ALMOST POSITIVE THAT BEING
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FRIENDS WITH THOSE THREE PEOPLE
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IS NOT A CRIME.
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AND I KNOW THAT HAVING YOUR NAME
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MENTIONED IN A TRANSCRIPT WHEN
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YOU ARE NOT A PARTICIPANT IN THE
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PHONE CALL IS NOT A CRIME.
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SO I DON'T KNOW.
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I KNOW SHE'S UPSET BECAUSE HE'S
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DOING A GOOD JOB.
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I KNOW SHE'S UPSET THAT HE'S A
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REALLY SMART, GOOD LAWYER, BUT
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THAT IS NOT SUFFICIENT REASON TO
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CALL FOR SPECIAL COUNSEL.
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>> Martha: THERE HAVE BEEN A
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LOT OF INDICATIONS THE
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ATTORNEY GENERAL WAS NOT THAT
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PLEASED WITH THE WHOLE STORY OF
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WHAT WAS GOING ON.
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UKRAINE, RUDY GIULIANI GOING
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OVER THERE AND IT SORT OF BEING
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EXTRACURRICULAR FROM THE DOJ AND
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A LOVE THAT.
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SO WITH ANYTHING, IT APPEARS HE
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WAS SORT OF PUSHING BACK AGAINST
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SOME OF THAT AND IT HAS BEEN
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SUGGESTED BUT I WANT TO READ A
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STATEMENT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF
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JUSTICE, WHO SAID IT'S 100%
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FALSE WHAT LEV PARNAS HAS
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PROFESSED THERE.
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SHE WENT ON TO SAY THE PRESIDENT
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HAS NOT SPOKE WITH
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ATTORNEY GENERAL ABOUT HAVING
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UKRAINE INVESTIGATE ANYTHING
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RELATED TO FORMER VICE PRESIDENT
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BIDEN OR HIS SON.
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THE PRESIDENT HAS NOT ASKED THE
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ATTORNEY GENERAL TO CONTACT
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UKRAINE ON THIS OR ANY OTHER
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MATTER.
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THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS NOT
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COMMUNICATED WITH UKRAINE OR
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DISCUSS THE MATTER OR ANYTHING
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RELATED TO UKRAINE WITH RUDY
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GIULIANI.
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THAT IS A REPEAT, ACTUALLY
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OF SEPTEMBER 25TH STATEMENT.
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BUT APPARENTLY, NANCY PELOSI HAS
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A LOT MORE CREDENCE IN LEV
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PARNAS WHO IS FACING TRIAL.
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AND THE STATEMENT OF THE
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ATTORNMENT
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ATTORNEYNT
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ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE
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UNITED STATES.
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>> CONTRAST WHAT BILL BARR,
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WHETHER YOU LIKE HIM OR NOT, NOT
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HAVING TO LIKE HIM A LOT BECAUSE
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REALLY, A REALLY GOOD REPUTATION
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AND NOT CURLING UNDER A DIAMOND
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EITHER BY THE WAY.
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CONTRAST WITH WHAT LEV PARNAS
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SAID AND EVEN IN THE INTERVIEW
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HE STARTS OFF WITH ABSOLUTE
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CERTITUDE.
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AND THEN THE NEXT THING OUT OF
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HIS MOUTH, WELL, HE HAD TO, AND
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THE THIRD THING OUT OF HIS MOUTH
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IS PROBABLY.
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HE REGRESSES THREE STAGES IN THE
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COURSE OF THE SAME ANSWER FROM
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ABSOLUTE CERTITUDE TO PROBABLY.
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YOU ARE JUST NOT GOING TO GET A
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CONVICTION OR APPOINTMENT OF
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SPECIAL COUNSEL BASED ON WHAT
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SOMEONE UNDER FEDERAL INDICTMENT
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WITH A MOTIVE TO LIE THINGS AS
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POSSIBLE.
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IT JUST DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
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>> Martha: LET ME ASK YOU
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THIS.
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THIS EVIDENCES SORT OF TRICKLING
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OUT AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE
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SENATE TRIAL ON ALL OF THIS.
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AND WE HEARD ADAM SCHIFF WHO WE
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HAVE HEARD BEFORE SAY THERE IS
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WAY MORE THAN PEOPLE KNOW.
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AND HE SAID, WELL, THIS IS JUST
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PART OF IT.
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WE ARE EXPECTING A LOT MORE OF
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THIS.
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WHAT DO YOU THINK LEV PARNAS IS
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HOPING TO SAVE HIMSELF FROM BY
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SPEAKING OUT AT THIS POINT?
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IS HE DOING HIMSELF ANY FAVORS
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AS HE ENTERS THE LEGAL PROCESS
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HERE?
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>> HE HAS NOT.
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SECOND THING, MICHAEL: WENT
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BEFORE HOUSE COMMITTEE AND ONCE
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WHAT'S CALLED A 5K1.1 OR RULE
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FIVE'S IN A PRODUCTION AND
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THAT'S THE SAME THING LEV PARNAS
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WANTS, HE WANTS CREDIT FOR
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COOPERATING.
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>> Martha: BUT ISN'T THAT IN
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FRONT OF A CAMERA?
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>> THEY DO NOT LIKE IT WHEN YOU
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COOPERATE ON MSNBC OR SOMEONE
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OBJECTIVE OR CENTERED CAN
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ACTUALLY USE THE INFORMATION FOR
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SOMETHING OTHER THAN EXPEDIENCY.
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SO NO, IT WILL NOT WORK.
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YOU ARE ASKING WHY IS HE DOING
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IT?
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HAIL MARY AND NOBODY THERE TO
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CATCH HIM.
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>> Martha: SO WITH REGARD TO
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WHAT I MENTIONED IN THE
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BEGINNING, THE STORY THAT A SORT
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OF COMING OUT FROM
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"THE NEW YORK TIMES" THAT THERE
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IS ANOTHER INVESTIGATION INTO
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JIM COMEY LEAKING AND IT'S
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COMING FROM THE DOJ.
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"THE NEW YORK TIMES" HAS THIS
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HAPPENED A LONG TIME AGO AND
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FOLLOWED UP ON RIGHT AWAY AND
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POLITICAL MOTIVATION BY ANY
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THOUGHTS ON THAT COMET
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TREY GOWDY?
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>> MARTHA, I'M NOT A FAN OF
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JIM COMEY BUT I AM OF BEING
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FAIR.
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I KNOW THAT FACT PATTERN
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REFERENCED IN THIS STORY.
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JIM COMEY WAS ASKED BEHIND
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CLOSED DOORS IN A CLASSIFIED
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SETTING TO ADDRESS IT, AND HE
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WOULD NOT DO IT.
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HIS RESPONSE WAS, IT WAS SO
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HIGHLY CLASSIFIED, HE WAS NOT
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EVEN GOING TO TELL PEOPLE WHO
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WERE CLEAR TO HEAR IT IN A
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CLASSIFIED SETTING.
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SO LET THE RECORD BE CLEAR, I'M
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NOT A FAN OF JIM COMEY, BUT I AM
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A FAN TO BEING FAIR TO PEOPLE.
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I'M NOT GOING TO INDICT HIM OR
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CONVICT HIM BASED ON A
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REPORTING.
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MY EXPERIENCE WITH HIM ON THIS
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VERY FACT PATTERN AND THE
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SUBJECT OF THE ARTICLE, HE WOULD
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NOT ADDRESS IT IN A SETTING