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  • Hey. Welcome back to another episode of Twoset Violin.

  • Today we'll be reviewing...

  • (cough) roasting (cough)

  • ...reviewing (cough)

  • a Netflix movie called

  • - Now... Oh wait. - It's called "The Perfection," not "Perfectionist."

  • Eddy...

  • Noo!

  • The Perfection!

  • Oh, my god.

  • Now, this movie features

  • a lot of cello playing.

  • And we figured, we probably don't know enough

  • to get into that real juicy roast.

  • So, of course...

  • We decided not to just get a professional cellist,

  • but world-class soloists!

  • Brett: Kian and Pablo are here with us!

  • (all) Yay!

  • If you don't believe us, check them out online.

  • They're legit, they're really good.

  • We're really curious to see what you guys have to say.

  • Umm, because

  • the movie's about two

  • uh, older...

  • I guess soloists, prodigies.

  • Kinda like you guys, actually.

  • Eddy: But in a movie, well...

  • Yeah, some things are legit,

  • some things weren't so much, but -

  • - Let's see, let's see. - I have no idea what's coming, actually.

  • Disclaimer, we literally have no idea

  • - what's coming. Like, really none. - Yeah, at this point.

  • I'm worried and, uh,

  • frightened.

  • - All right, let's do the first scene. - Here we go, guys.

  • - They definitely have some education, no? - Yeah.

  • Sounds real, no?

  • Can I, can I pause it for a second?

  • Like, can you see that red banner on the back?

  • So, it actually says in Chinese:

  • Ohh, okay.

  • I always say that.

  • "One minute onstage

  • equals ten years of practice offstage."

  • What do you guys think?

  • Is that true?

  • What did he say? I didn't hear the question.

  • It was...can you say it in Chinese?

  • I don't understand it in English.

  • Your Chinese is more clear than your Australian.

  • My English sucks!

  • One minute onstage

  • is worth more than 10,000 hours offstage?

  • - No no no - - What?!

  • It takes 10 years of practice offstage

  • for 1 minute onstage.

  • It depends which minute, though.

  • No, maybe not 10 years,

  • but definitely...

  • It's pushing it a bit with the statement.

  • You're a beginner and you're playing an easy piece,

  • an easy piece that's a minute long,

  • you can, I guess you can learn it in a couple of months.

  • Imagine learning like a 30-minute concerto.

  • And that's like, 30 years to practice that concerto.

  • So now, what they mean of course is...

  • You need to prepare a lot for each concert. It makes sense.

  • But of course, it's kind of exaggerated.

  • It is true that...

  • After you played something it gets better, no? Onstage?

  • Yeah, of course.

  • - You get a lot of experience by performing. - Yeah.

  • - Kian: It's extremely important. - Eddy: Mmm!

  • The crucial part of learning is

  • being on stage and

  • maybe messing up.

  • I have a theory that you need to mess

  • everything up onstage -

  • - Once, at least? - Once,

  • before you never mess it up again.

  • - I mean, that's what happened actually. - You have to try it at least.

  • - You have to really try it. - You have to go for it,

  • and if something mi

  • You miss something,

  • then you won't miss it next time.

  • Guys, this was meant to be a roast,

  • but it's becoming like a masterclass for you guys.

  • - Yeah guys. - This is golden advice!

  • - No one ever does that! - That's soWhat is—?!

  • No one ever...!

  • - What's that? - What?

  • When someone is in the audience like,

  • I've seen, uh...

  • conducting in the audience.

  • - Yeah, yeah. - Someone is always conducting like,

  • - Sure. Sure you're - - That's such -

  • It's such a movie thing!

  • - Haha, yeah. - Just relax,

  • and enjoy the performance, like...

  • But actually, I think all of these, uh...

  • - They all play. They all sorta play. - ...kids are actual cellists.

  • - They're actually cellists. - Yeah.

  • Or in case, if we are wrong,

  • - then they're superb actors. - Then they're amazingly trained.

  • - I see! - Yeah.

  • But they did look like

  • they know what they're doing.

  • But the guy, the guy doesn't.

  • The guy who was doing this?

  • - Oh really - - They're acting, yeah.

  • Yeah, just like,

  • The girl on the left is going to win.

  • Woman: She's brilliant.

  • Woman: Leaves the other two in the dust.

  • If you wanna talk, I'm okay.

  • But don't sit in the first row...

  • ...and start talking, like...

  • (whispering)

  • - "They're great!" - "Yeah!"

  • Brett: Yeah!

  • "This one, not so good. But this one—"

  • Yeahhh!

  • You can talk in like, you know,

  • fifth, sixth row, and then

  • But first row and talking is, for me,

  • it's extremely distracting, actually,

  • - if I play... - Wow, that's the worst.

  • Anything you do, we see.

  • - Kian: Any movement. - Brett, Eddy: Mmm.

  • And it's so discouraging,

  • - when they start reading your biography. - And we're...

  • Yeah!

  • - Brett: Ohh. - Pablo: We see, and we mi

  • And we overinterpret.

  • Not to mention, can I just add to like,

  • just the idea that she's like,

  • "Oh, the one on the left is going to win."

  • And she's like,

  • - one meter away from the performers, you know? - I know!!

  • And she can totally hear you.

  • Yeah, everyone can hear you as well.

  • A quick question.

  • What gave it away for you guys,

  • that they're real, educated cellists?

  • Position of their right hand, left hand,

  • it was clearly in the right place.

  • Everything was in the right place.

  • You can always tell by the angle of the hand,

  • like it's weird, the way they hold their bow and...

  • Actually, they have...

  • the posture, everything is right.

  • - Kian: You can tell immediately. - Eddy: Oooh.

  • - Well let's see then, - Mhm.

  • 'cause this next scene...

  • I don't know about their posture.

  • Oh, my god the...

  • Already I can tell—!

  • - Wait, what? Already! - What do you mean by already you can tell?

  • Everything. It's way too far away, like

  • the... the neck of the cello is so distant!

  • - I mean, when I play at least, - This scroll is very low, huh?

  • - Most cellists I've seen, it shouldn't touch your body like that. - I mean the head of the cello.

  • Yeah, that's too low.

  • Ahh, yeah yeah yeah yeah!

  • - Yeah, okay. - I can see that.

  • It's way too low. And for the other one it's way too high.

  • So let's not judge before they start playing,

  • Maybe they're like, incredible cellists.

  • - Yeah. - Maybe, maybe.

  • (both) What?!

  • They're already laughing!

  • What's up with the noise?!

  • And then,

  • Have you guys ever done a...

  • backwards concert,

  • where you're onstage,

  • and the audience is standing in front of you like that?

  • ActuallyStanding, no.

  • Sitting, yeah. I've done a concert where

  • it was in a gigantic concert hall,

  • and it was just a recital so they...

  • Smart...

  • Smart choice, decided to turn the whole thing around.

  • And the audience was sitting.

  • Sitting, but it makes

  • Why are they standing? Like...

  • Yeah, I don't know why they're standing!

  • So menacing.

  • Well, this looks already wrong, no?

  • Yeah, it's the bow. You can see.

  • Yeah, of course.

  • Well but at least it's in the position though, they're not...

  • Yeah.

  • I mean, you could

  • You can see they practiced.

  • - I mean - - But there's so many indications immediately.

  • It's like, the vibrato does not at all match...

  • ...ah, what she does.

  • Like, the one on the left.

  • She played like an A harmonic.

  • Right?

  • Uh-huh.

  • With the fingers.

  • But it was sounding

  • Like some opera singer.

  • HUGE vibrato!

  • When it was, she was just doing a harmonic(s).

  • So that, uh...

  • Unfortunately, those are little things that

  • - But at least it's in the same area, though. - ...immediately give it away.

  • - You know - - Yeah.

  • So most people wouldn't notice.

  • - I think it's just us. - Yeah.

  • We know the little details, that's why.

  • Good fingerings, actually, I mean...

  • Standard fingering.

  • Would you do the same fingerings?

  • - I... would completely. I trained them. - Absolutely.

  • Apparently, these are actresses that

  • - didn't play an instrument before. - Mhmm.

  • So they actually had to learn.

  • And hats off, because it, I mean...

  • - It looks very real. - It's impressive for the fact that they

  • had to learn it. Very impressive.

  • The bow is...

  • Always a giveaway.

  • Is a red bow hair a thing for cellos?

  • Have you guys seen that before?

  • - Ooh. No, I've never seen that before. - The what, the what?

  • The red bow hair.

  • No, I've never seen it.

  • I think the slow parts, they can...

  • pull it off, no?

  • As soon as it gets having faster,

  • it's harder to...

  • To fake it.

  • It's, it's hard, yeah.

  • There are little, little giveaways.

  • Also, the position of the thumb in the left hand.

  • She was, like floating with her thumb.

  • - Brett: Oh yeah! It's hanging! - Eddy: Yeah! It's just hanging!

  • But there is

  • I actually had some teachers who,

  • who advised to do that.

  • Also, she's doing it in the fast parts.

  • OH!! It is just... floating.

  • That's like the violin on the thumb.

  • Cellists have their thumbs there,

  • violins is the same.

  • Yeah.

  • Sometimes we hold it like this.

  • Again, I think it's impressive.

  • - It was very good, yeah. - There must have been so many hours of them

  • being able to synchronize it.

  • But yeah. It's the bow,

  • it's the bow arm, it's too stiff.

  • You would have to be more relaxed to sound like that, actually.

  • I mean, it's impressive,

  • - how youHow you can even - - Having the notes.

  • How you can even fake it. It's impressive.

  • Because the notes are all actually in the right position.

  • That's... remarkable.

  • - Remarkable. - Also this.

  • Even theShe plays the right intervals, and everything.

  • - Kind of the right notes, I mean. - The bowing seemed a bit weird just then, right?

  • Like...

  • It was legato, but...