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  • OK let me see.

  • I don't think it's gonna take ten minutes to disprove the existence of God.

  • The atheist proposition is the following:

  • most of the time, it may not be said, that there is no god.

  • It may be said that there is no reason to think that there is one.

  • That was the situation after Lucretius and Democritus and the original antitheistic thinkers began their critique of religion,

  • and I would just ask you all, ladies and gentlemen, to bear in mind a mild distinction while we go on.

  • You may wish to be a deist, as my heroes Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine were.

  • And you may not wish to abandon the idea that there must be some sort of first or proximate cause,

  • or prime mover of the known and observable world and universe.

  • But even if you can get yourself to that position, which we unbelievers maintain is always

  • subject to better, and more perfect, and more elegant explanations,

  • even if you *can* get yourself to that position, all your work is still ahead of you.

  • To go from being a deist to a theist, in other words from someone who says: "God cares about you,

  • knows who you are,

  • minds what you do,

  • answers your prayers,

  • cares which bits of your penis or clitoris you saw away or have sawn away for you,

  • minds who you go to bed with and in what way,

  • minds what holy days you observe,

  • minds what you eat,

  • minds what positions you use for pleasure...

  • All your work is still ahead of you, and lots of luck.

  • Because there is nobody -even Aquinas had to give it up- there's no-one who can move from the first position to the second.

  • So I could, and I'm actually strongly tempted to, I can leave it right there.

  • But then it's not in my nature to uhm... let off a captive audience so easily.

  • So I'll add a couple of things.

  • The reasons why I'm glad that this is not true, would I suppose be the gravamen of my case.

  • Some people I know, who are atheists, will say the wish they could believe it.

  • Some people I know who are former believers say they wish they could have their old faith back.

  • They miss it.

  • I don't understand this at all.

  • I think it is an excellent thing there is no reason to believe in the absurd propositions I just...

  • admittedly rather briefly rehearsed to you.

  • The main reason for this I think is that it is a totalitarian belief.

  • It is the wish to be a slave.

  • It is the desire that there be an unalterable, unchallengeable, tyrannical authority,

  • who can convict you of thoughtcrime, while you are asleep.

  • Who can subject you -who must indeed subject you- to a total surveillance, around the clock,

  • every waking and sleeping minute of your life, - I say: *of your life* -

  • before you were born, and even worse, and where the real fun begins:

  • after you're dead.

  • A celestial North Korea.

  • Who wants this to be true?!

  • Who but a slave desires such a ghastly fate?

  • I've *been* to North Korea.

  • It has a dead man as its president.

  • Kim Jong-il is only head of the party, and head of the army; he's not head of the government or the state.

  • That office belongs to his deceased father, Kim Il-sung.

  • It's a necrocracy.

  • A thanatocracy. It's one short of a trinity, I might add.

  • The son is the reincarnation of the father.

  • It is the most revolting and utter and absolute and heartless tyranny the human species has ever evolved,

  • but at least, you can fucking die and leave North Korea.

  • Does the Quran... does the Quran or the Bible offer you that liberty? No!

  • No! The tyranny, the misery, the utter ownership of your entire personality,

  • the smashing of your individuality, only begins at the point of death.

  • This is evil. This is a wicked preachment.

  • So. That's the first thing.

  • Second: it attacks us in our deepest... in our deepest most essential integrity.

  • It's an insult to us, in other words.

  • It says that we -you and I- could not, individually or collectively, decide on a right action or right thing,

  • without celestial, divine permission.

  • We would not know right from wrong, if we did not have Heaven's permission to do so.

  • Where else, how else could we know? Our human solidarity, our innate knowledge of right and wrong,

  • our acute awareness of what is fair and what is unfair, what is just... are worthless to us.

  • These come to us also, as gifts from the great, unassailable dictator enthroned.

  • What could abolish our integrity, what could abolish our honesty, our decency, our dignity more than that?

  • The second... -third!-

  • ...is a little more pragmatic.

  • Religion is our first -that's why I'm so fascinated with it- it is our first version of the truth.

  • It is our first attempt as a species.

  • It's what we tried when we didn't know anything.

  • We didn't know that we lived on a spherical planet, we didn't know our planet revolved around the Sun.

  • We didn't know there were micro-organisms that explain disease.

  • We thought that diseases came from curses or witches, or ill-wishing, or devils, "dust devils".

  • We didn't know anything from the childish, terrified, ignorant origins of our animal, primate species with cumbersome religion.

  • It was also our attempt at philosophy, our first attempt at morality, our first attempt in health care actually but,

  • because it was our first it is our worst. We now have better explanations for all these dreads.

  • And we have cleared up all of these mysteries, yet we still dwell, and in some countries,

  • and some societies not just dwell, but live under a totalitarian regime that forbids us

  • to think about the progress that has been made or denies us the knowledge that these advances have in fact occurred.

  • So it has become, where once it probably was in aid to us, the Bible,

  • a really great peril to our continued ability to live as a civilized species.

  • Thus it seems to me that in point of its proposing of a totalitarian solution to what is after all a real problem,

  • to its ghastly reliance upon the supernatural, rather than the much more miraculous, much more beautiful,

  • much more elegant, much more numinous, much more harmonious natural explanations...

  • Think how much lovelier Einstein and Darwin are.

  • Think how much more elegant and persuasive they are than the idea of the burning bush,

  • or the demand that without circumcision there could be no redemption.

  • Just picture it.

  • And then I'll give you one final thought experiment.

  • This is what you have to believe now, if you're a monotheist, because we now know things we didn't use to know:

  • we know that the human species... could be as much as 200,000 years ago, that it becomes separate

  • from Cro-Magnons and the primal pre-human species.

  • Could be as little as a hundred. Richard Dawkins thinks 200 thousand, Francis Collins, who did the Human Genome Project

  • -who by the way is a C.S. Lewis kind of Christian- thinks a 100 thousand.

  • Alright, I'll take a hundred.

  • I'll take a hundred.

  • Here's what you have to believe:

  • For a 100,000 years, humans are born as a primate species.

  • Expectation of life: what, 25 years? For the first few ten's of thousands years?

  • Infant mortality: rife.

  • Micro-organism disease: terrifying.

  • Earthquakes, volcanoes: extraordinary.

  • And fights over land, over territory, over food, over women, over tribalism: frightening too.

  • For 95, 96 thousand years Heaven watches this... Will folden arms. With indifference. With coldness.

  • And then around three to four thousand years ago, but only in really barbaric, illiterate parts of the Middle East...

  • -not in China! Not in China or where people can read, or think, or do science. No no no!-

  • ...in barbaric illiterate backward parts of the Middle East is decided: "We can't let this go on, we better intervene."

  • "And what better way than by human sacrifices and plagues, and mass murder?"

  • "And if THAT doesn't make them behave morally? ...we just don't know what does."

  • If there is a single person in this room who can bring themselves to believe anything remotely like that,

  • they convict themselves of being first: very stupid. And second: very immoral.

  • And thus it seems to me that the case for divine intervention or for the supernatural falls,

  • and that we should be glad that it is falling! And thank you.

OK let me see.

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Hitchens versus God (subtitles)

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    Vivian Wong   に公開 2019 年 01 月 01 日
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