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  • Recording!

  • Hello~!

  • I'm with...Tamanna~!

  • Again~!

  • We were talking about racism earlier

  • And we're just going to have this- - If you're scared about talking about racism I think you should turn away.

  • I've been planning-

  • Like, it's been on my mind, yeah

  • I want to make a video about racism in the UK as a British born East Asian.

  • But erm- - It still exists.

  • I can talk about racism for like a whole day.

  • It's something I'm really passionate about

  • And something Tamanna is really passionate about as well.

  • So, we thought we would talk about it today.

  • It's going to be a bit... controversial and a bit sensitive

  • But it's got to be done because no one likes to talk about it.

  • Racism in the UK is so subtle

  • That people are too scared to say anything

  • But I think - - Which is why we need to talk about it!

  • But I think the problem is that because it is so subtle

  • people will think that it doesn't exist.

  • It does exist!

  • It definitely does exist!

  • It exists, but if you say to people, "Oh this has happened to me",

  • They just think, "Oh...but you're probably being a bit sensitive"

  • Or you know what I mean?

  • Or "You're looking into things a bit too much"

  • But they don't understand that every day occurrences of little things

  • can really get to people.

  • I think the problem is the definition of racism itself.

  • So like, I feel like generally people just think racism is discrimination against a person of a certain race.

  • (However there are different forms of racism. Racism is more than just explicit racial acts).

  • I just feel like there are different levels of racism

  • So you kind of get the "explicit racism"

  • which is like when someone starts shouting at you on the street,

  • Calling you names, or like spitting at you, and throwing stuff at you

  • But I think nowadays it's more systematic (Racism can also be systematic and implicit, which is why racism in the UK can be subtle).

  • But like as you get older,

  • So like, when I was younger

  • I used to get called names, people would spit at me,

  • People would like tell me to go back to my own country,

  • And throw stones at me,

  • Throw eggs at me,

  • Egg my house, things like that.

  • That's just disgusting...

  • But those are normally by young kids

  • Especially males

  • Young male kids who are around 10 years old or like 13 years old

  • But as you get older, so like now we're working, it's a different kind of racism.

  • And it's very... subtle...

  • - I don't know how to [word it]. No, it's really systematic

  • So I think it's really ingrained in our society

  • That people are treated in a certain way

  • Or like they'll have an unconscious bias about someone because of race/ethnicity, whatever you'd like to call it.

  • But it's...

  • It's hard to describe...

  • Because they have policies and they talk about "equality" and all that jazz

  • If you say, "Oh, I think I'm being discriminated against because of my race"

  • People are like, "No, you're not!"

  • Because there's HR and equality policies

  • And there's this and that

  • And it's all just...

  • Nonsense.

  • It's hard to talk about

  • I feel like when you're younger you get that explicit racism where people are calling you names, things like that.

  • But now I'm older and at work, it's more like an ignorance thing?

  • Like they're not aware about your culture, your background...

  • And how...

  • *not good at explaining lol*

  • And how...it affects you? I don't know how to word it.

  • It is massively ignorance because they will say something

  • That is offensive

  • Like you'd get offended by it

  • But they'd have no idea what they're saying

  • For me-

  • Like, we're both Asian but we're different kinds of Asian

  • We're different kinds of Asian

  • But in the UK

  • Asian is her Asian. Brown Asian.

  • My Asian they call us "Oriental"

  • They don't call us "Asian"

  • Wow, you're like a dish

  • We're a f***ing dish

  • Yeah literally you are! -I'm an exotic dish!

  • You're Oriental! Like what?

  • The thing is, right

  • I always used to use the word "Oriental"

  • Like me and my friends, my fellow Yellow friends

  • We always used the word "Oriental"

  • Just because it differentiated us between each other (South Asian vs. East Asian).

  • And it makes it easier for other people

  • I like to say "East Asian"

  • That's what I [prefer to say too]

  • But everyone used to say Oriental (and many people now still say Oriental)

  • Even I used to say Oriental

  • But like the last few years (~5 years ago) I've just found it a bit offensive

  • I just prefer to use the word "East Asian"

  • Don't call us Oriental. Please!

  • It's more geographic. It makes sense!

  • Because you're talking about geographic location, right?

  • Yeah! - You say east!

  • But like when I was in school - - I'm South Asian. [East Asia] is people who are from China, Japan, Vietnam wherever

  • Etcetera! Exactly!

  • And like, when I was at school, I was like, "Yeah I'm Asian!"

  • And they'd be like, "No, you're not Asian!"

  • Yeah!

  • Like, "Excuse me?"

  • Like you're trying to define me? - Excuse me?

  • Like I don't know my own identity?

  • I guess people don't know my ethnicity as well on YouTube

  • But like, everyone's been asking about it...

  • Which I don't really understand why it's such an issue

  • I'm Pakistani! My name is Rezwana Khan! (private joke lol)

  • Come on!

  • Like I get soooo many questions of people going, "Where are you from?"

  • "Where are you really from?"

  • "Where are you really really REALLY from?"

  • or "Where are you ORIGINALLY from?"

  • OMG! This is going to get me mad

  • Because I get asked this

  • ALL.

  • THE.

  • TIME.

  • Where are you from then?

  • *sigh*

  • I'm from UK!

  • I'm from the UK!

  • But~! - Were you born in the UK?

  • (sarcastic) WELL NAHHHHHHH!

  • No!

  • I'm from the UK

  • But if someone asks me though

  • "Where are you from?"

  • My natural answer is, "I'm from the UK."

  • Because this was where I was born, this was where I was raised. That's where I'm from!

  • And then they'd be like, "Oh no, but like, where are you REALLY from?"

  • And I'm just like, "...London?"

  • And they're like, "No, but like where are you like really REALLY from?"

  • And I'm just like, "...London?!

  • And they're like, "No, but you know, where are you like ORIGINALLY from? Like where are your parents from?"

  • And I'm just like, "Yeah...That's the question you wanted to ask!"

  • That was the question!

  • That's the question you wanted to ask!

  • But you know what, the other day I was asked...

  • So this woman came from America- bless her, she seemed really sweet.

  • And I was with one of my friends, so my friend is Black Caribbean basically

  • So we're there getting breakfast and she says, "Oh, where are you guys from?"

  • And we just looked at each other like, "Sorry, what do you mean?"

  • Which one do you mean- Do you mean this one or do you mean THIS one?

  • There are so many ways of answering that question.

  • Like I don't know which one you want to know but bless her.

  • "Where are you originally-" like don't ask that question!

  • Just go-

  • If you want to know, you go, "What is your ethnicity?"

  • There we go!

  • But I feel like that's a bit of a [personal question]. (I personally dislike being asked my ethnicity by strangers because I think it's irrelevant).

  • I don't mind if somebody asks my ethnicity and they knew-

  • Like if you're going to ask-

  • Yeah, if you're going to ask that question, you say, "What is your ethnicity?"

  • You don't say "Where are you really from?"

  • If you're going to ask me what my ethnicity is and I say Bangladesh

  • And you're like- Bangladesh?

  • Bengali!

  • Bangladesh!? I seriously need to school myself haha

  • If I said Bengali, and that means nothing to you, why are you asking?!

  • Like if you know about like the differences between Bangladeshis, Pakistanis and Indian people

  • It just becomes a thing. (It just becomes a label. People are only "curious" so that they can categorise you).

  • Oh! And the answer to the question is that...

  • My Dad is from Hong Kong

  • And my Mum is from Vietnam

  • But technically we're ethnically Chinese

  • But it's very very confusing (to me at least lol) so...

  • There you go

  • THERE YOU GO! The answer is out! OK, you can go now!

  • Someone was SO curious that they even PM'd me on Instagram!

  • Just to ask me where am I "really" from!

  • Like that's crazy!

  • Why would you do that!?

  • What about this person? What ethnicity were they?

  • I don't really care, they were Asian of some kind.

  • It's always the other Asians!

  • They always feel the need to know what you are, what you do, what everything.

  • My kind of Asians do that as well actually

  • It's such an Asian thing to do. - It's an Asian thing

  • It's just because they want to know whether you know-

  • Like OK, now you know,

  • Now you know, what is this piece of information going to do for you?

  • Change their lives! - Does it make you like me less?

  • Or like me? Does it really matter!? Like seriously!

  • They might be related to you

  • People were like debating where I'm from

  • I'm not Korean by the way. I just can speak Korean (kinda). That's all.

  • Everyone was just like...

  • OMG

  • Now they know...

  • Now you know, can you shut up now!?

  • No more DM's on your Instagram!

  • Don't DM me asking me!

  • That's so...

  • RUDE!

  • They were like, "Hi, can I ask you a question?"

  • I was like, "OK...Depends what it is."

  • And he was like, "I'm just wondering like where are you like really from? Because you're not British, right?"

  • Right?

  • And I was just like, "Er...excuse me?"

  • Wow...they didn't even let you answer the question!

  • Excuse me?

  • Like they just asked you a question and they just assumed

  • I know! I know! But it's like why would you PM someone

  • Just to ask them where they are "really" from?

  • That is so rude!

  • I'm sorry, if you're watching this, that was so rude! Don't do that!

  • You can't even define it sometimes, do you know what I mean?

  • There are people who-

  • Some of my friends they...this is a weird one

  • So they're ethnically Indian, but their parents then migrated to Tanzania

  • Yeah yeah yeah yeah!

  • But they now live in the UK, like born and raised in the UK

  • But what are they ethnically then? Like how do they class themselves?

  • Yeah, because it's like part of your identity! - Because they're both!

  • So like my mum is from Vietnam, and my Dad is from Hong Kong

  • And I grew up hearing like 4 different languages

  • Because my Mum speaks Vietnamese, Cantonese-

  • We speak Cantonese at home

  • But like Cantonese is my Mum's 5th language or something

  • How many languages does your Mum speak?

  • My Mum speaks- Wait...

  • 5?

  • Wait- my Mum speaks...*counts again*

  • Are you sure?

  • LOL WAIT

  • She speaks Cantonese

  • She speaks Vietnamese

  • She speaks her own Chinese dialect (Teochew/Diojiu)

  • It's like a rare dialect

  • And then...

  • She speaks English

  • And then... she kind of speaks Mandarin as well.

  • Oh, by the way!

  • Mandarin and Korean are just two languages that I learnt myself.

  • The language I speak at home is Cantonese.

  • There you go~

  • Because people were like asking, "Are you Taiwanese or something?"

  • And I'm like, "No..."

  • And people were asking, "Are you half White?"

  • And I'm like, "No...do I look like I'm half White?"

  • Like seriously...lol

  • You look full White!

  • But didn't you say your sister thought I was half White?

  • I remember you said that someone in your family thought I was half White

  • And I was like, "No, she's not."

  • But...WHY would you think I'm half White?

  • Do I look like...

  • Do I look White to you?

  • I have no idea why she said that. - I don't know why she said that!

  • Has anyone else said that to you?