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  • we aware of the recent television special,

  • that claimed to give an honest, candid, and revealing look

  • into the private life of one of the world's most successful and controversial celebrities,

  • Michael Jackson

  • The revelations were explosive, the ratings were enormous,

  • but Michael has claimed that what, TV journalist, Martin Bashir presented

  • was a twisted and edited construction of scandal and innuendo

  • Not a true representation of the interviews that actually took place.

  • In the next two hours, we're gonna give you an opportunity unprecedented in the history of television.

  • We're gonna show you footage that was never intended to be broadcast.

  • Tonight, the private video from Michael's own cameras.

  • Cameras that shot 'The Michael Jackson Interview: The Footage You Were Never Meant to See'

  • As much as I do not speak about my family, I will

  • right now.

  • For the first time, Michael's ex-wife speaks out in public.

  • My kids don't call me mom, because I don't want them to.

  • You'll find out what really happened during the astonishing incidents with his children in Germany.

  • And I've seen people that flip their kids up in the air, do somersaults, and catch them.

  • To be honest with you, I think, wait another four or five years

  • the kids will come in front of the camera and they will defend their daddy.

  • You'll hear about Michael's childhood.

  • One of the things that I can see this man tried to do,

  • he tried to pin something on me where I was real brutal.

  • You'll find out how Michael really feels about his father.

  • He doesn't know this, but I walk in the room and his presence would be there and I'd faint.

  • You'll hear about Michael's surgery that the other special didn't mention.

  • The whole top of his caught fire, right in front of my eyes.

  • You'll hear the truth behind Michael's children and their disguises.

  • Michael is very proud of his children; I'm the one who's terrified.

  • You'll go behind the rumors of the Neverland Ranch.

  • I never did - I would slit my wrists before I would hurt a child.

  • And find out how those rumors have driven a family from their home.

  • Gavin call me, he was crying on the phone.

  • He went in gas station, the kid in gas station, they start kidding

  • "Oh you are the kid who doing this with Michael. You slept with Michael."

  • They ruined this kid's life!

  • You'll hear from the people closest to Michael.

  • I've heard someone say on the television that

  • no-one should be allowed behind those gates at Neverland, especially the children.

  • They don't even know what they're talking about.

  • Plus, a surprise revelation from the man behind the Michael Jackson interviews.

  • There will be a lot of controversy about this.

  • Stupid tabloids. You're beyond this, you're a respected journalist.

  • All tonight, on 'The Michael Jackson Interview: The Footage You Were Never Meant to See,'

  • With Mr. Bashir's full knowledge, Michael had his own behind the scenes camera document the major interviews.

  • The quality of the audio and video may be a bit raw at times,

  • but it will enable you to see and hear the interviews as they actually happened,

  • and will allow you, the viewing audience, to draw your own conclusions.

  • While Michael Jackson has provided this footage to us,

  • he has absolutely no control over the editorial content of this program.

  • But who is Martin Bashir and how did he get an exclusive interview

  • with one of the most reclusive pop stars the world has ever known?

  • In 1995, this little known British journalist caused an uproar

  • when his sensational interview with Princess Diana

  • revealed details of her extra marital affair.

  • Since then, he has scored interviews with England's most notorious newsmakers,

  • becoming somewhat of a celebrity himself.

  • His interview was, as he put it, "a request to show me the real man,

  • but show me everything, make nothing off limits."

  • Michael agreed, and the first interview was scheduled for the summer of 2002.

  • In these photos of one of Bashir's interviews with Jackson,

  • you can see the camera that captured the footage you were never meant to see.

  • It's mounted right there, on the light stand.

  • This is the view it was capturing at the last interview,

  • and this is the shot from the very first interview at Neverland.

  • The man adjusting the lens

  • ?And now this is on.

  • - Okay, see, can we have silence in the house? - Yeah

  • Is Jackson's own documentary cameraman.

  • Oh, I just wanted to clarify that it was not a 'secret video.'

  • Right now they are saying that we were secretly video taping it, but that's not the truth.

  • Mr. Bashir saw me hooking up the camera,

  • and everybody saw the camera up there and we were just rolling it.

  • We usually do documentary of every thing that Mr. Jackson does.

  • The bigger the star, the bigger the target.

  • The more popular I became, the more rumors that were created

  • None of which were true.

  • I mean the moment I started breaking the all time records of the biggest selling albums of all time,

  • they calling me weird overnight, strange, whacko.

  • They said that I'm a girl, homosexual,

  • "He wants to buy the elephant man bones,"

  • "He sleeps in a hyperbaric chamber." None of that stuff is true,

  • all completely made up. It's all lies.

  • I sleep in a bed. I mean, people would be so surprised how normal or simple

  • Most people would have a hard time thinking Michael Jackson's life is normal or simple.

  • Maybe it's that ranch, north of Santa Barbara, California; The 3,000 acres he calls Neverland.

  • Neverland is an extraordinary,

  • What inspired me, it was so easy because it was me being myself

  • creating things that I love, and what I love, kids happen to love,

  • or what the child that lives inside the adult happens to love.

  • It is so easy because I'm putting behind the gates everything I never got to do when I was a kid.

  • - Somewhat? - What do you regret?

  • When I was really little, around 11 or 12, I was under contract with Motown

  • and I would have to go to the recording studio. I had to go and make these albums,

  • because the summer tour was right around the corner.

  • Right across the street from the recording studio was a ball park,

  • and I could hear the kids, the roar of the crowd, them playing and catching ball,

  • having fun, playing tennis. Some of those times I so passionately wanted to just go over there,

  • just play a little bit, and not go to the recording studio and sing;

  • just have some fun with the kids, and I couldn't.

  • People say, "Why is he always with children?!" Well, I was raised in a world with adults.

  • The kids were playing and in bed at sleep at night. I was up doing clubs,

  • I was doing club dates, three in the morning. The strip tease would come up after us.

  • We were performing.

  • We didn't have friends;

  • My brothers were my friends. We worked, we worked, we worked.

  • There was no Christmas, there were no birthdays; we were very strict Jehovah's Witnesses.

  • So, I'm compensating. Major make me sure that I'm compensated for the lost.

  • So you come behind my gates, and you'll see an amusement park, you'll see animals,

  • you'll see everything I never got to do.

  • There's candy everywhere.

  • It's fun.

  • While Bashir and his crew were here at Neverland, they got to witness what is almost the weekly experience.

  • Busloads of children, some from the inner city, some orphans, some terminally ill,

  • but all of them escaping their realities to spend the day at Michael Jackson's creation.

  • Who's gonna try to help me?

  • You want to come over here and see the elephants?

  • I feel totally at home with them. I can talk to them one on one, because they don't judge you.

  • They're not looking for anything from you, they just want to have some fun,

  • and that's the same with myself. I can connect to that, I can understand that.

  • The fact that I missed that on so much, as I was a child

  • as soon as they come in the room for me, the whole room lights up.

  • I like the sound they make.

  • They're really funny. Oh God, they're really funny.

  • Yeah, one of the little boys said to me, he saw all the rides, and all the amusements and he said,

  • "Michael Jackson, you own all of this?" I go, "Yeah."

  • He said, "You paid for all of this?" I went, "Yeah, I did."

  • "And you still have money left over?" That's exactly what he said to me.

  • I said, "Yeah." He said, "I can't believe it! I can't believe it!"

  • That's exactly what he said

  • He was amazed that I still had money afterwards.

  • We're the Make-A-Wish staff members, and we're escorting all the Make-A-Wish families who came to meet Michael.

  • It's just a great thing to be a part of it and to see how happy they are.

  • Everything's free, theatre, amusement parks, whatever they want to do, we can do it.

  • Millions a year, but you know, I get it all back when I see them smile.

  • Peter Pan

  • Peter Pan represents, to me, represents something that's very special to my heart.

  • He represents youth, childhood, never growing up, magic, flying,

  • everything that I think that children and wonderment and magic,

  • what it's all about.

  • To me I just have never ever grown out of loving that or thinking that it's very special.

  • No, I am Peter Pan.

  • I'm Peter Pan, in my heart.

  • Yes, that's absolutly true.

  • I've never been betrayed or deceived by children.

  • Adults have let me down; adults have let the world down.

  • What you're seeing all took place on the day that Martin Bashir and his crew were filming at Neverland.

  • You actually see him in several of the shots being taken by Jackson's camera crew.

  • This was supposed to be a documentary to tell the truth, everything,

  • I mean who would bring somebody to his life, and open up all the way, and wanted to lie about it?

  • If want to lie about it, don't even do it.

  • He didn't have to do this documentary; nobody forced him to do this documentary.

  • After a full day spent with children from the Make-A-Wish foundation at Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch,

  • what was Mr. Bashir's comment?

  • We'll quote directly from his appearance on ABC's Primetime Thursday.

  • As we said, that was Bashir's comment heard on TV by millions of people,

  • but what did Bashir say to Michael Jackson about this day at Neverland?

  • Let's take a look at the footage that was captured by Michael's camera documenting the interviews.

  • You know what? He does it all the time and a lot of people see it.

  • A lot of people see it

  • The woman you see has been Michael's makeup artist for over 20 years,

  • after listening to the glowing praise Bashir had for Michael in this interview,

  • she had a very hard believing he could call Neverland a "dangerous place for children."

  • It's so hard for me to imagine that Michael

  • opened up the gates not only to Neverland but to his heart, to Bashir.

  • I really thought that Bashir got it.

  • - This is getting worse. - ?And you never see anyone talk about it.

  • And if they do, they don't

  • don't make it in papers, they don't make it on the interviews, all is negative stuffs

  • Stupid rumors - They cut questions out, they just make it

  • That's why he doesn't do any interviews anymore.

  • They twist everything. From the moment I met him, I remember

  • How can people be so cruel? I remember reading an article and they

  • Now, what could make an award winning journalist have such a different opinion

  • between what he would say on the air,

  • and what he would say in the interview footage, not included in his special?

  • It appears that after Mr. Bashir had called cut for his own camera crew,

  • he may well have forgotten that Michael's camera was still recording his every word.

  • A possibility supported by a ripped request for both him and the producers of his special

  • to make Michael's footage available for their review.

  • The different opinion expressed by Mr. Bashir regarding the safety of the underprivileged children

  • who visit Neverland, is only one of several contradictory moments captured on tape

  • All of which you will see and hear on this program.

  • When we come back, an exclusive interview with Michael's ex-wife.

  • As much as I do not speak about my family, I will, right now.

  • Michael makes a long overdue confession.

  • - You had sex with Debbie? -Yes.

  • I know that's difficult for you to say, because you're embarrassed,

  • but you actually had sex with her, you conceived with - Yes. yes

  • And Debbie tells us about the results.

  • And then his son was born, and the look on his face

  • Plus, a very surprising revelation from Michael's private cameras.

  • All when we return to

  • In addition to the never before seen footage from Martin Bashir's interviews,

  • we have also been allowed unprecedented interviews to some of the people closest to Michael Jackson.

  • People who have turned down very lucrative offers,

  • to tell the inside story of life behind the Neverland gates.

  • They break their silence for the first time. And not for money.

  • No-one interviewed for this show received any payment to tell their story.

  • Their reason for appearing here is to tell the truth as they see it.

  • The person who has most avoided the glare of the spotlight

  • was the person who was perhaps the closest to Michael.

  • The woman who was his wife, and the mother of his first two children Debbie Rowe.

  • What's happened in the past is that things have been taken out of context, twisted around.

  • If I can help straighten it out as much as I do not speak about my family, I will

  • right now.

  • When I was talking to Prince one day, he said to me that he didn't have a mother.

  • He said he didn't have a mother?

  • Yeah, I said, "Prince, where's your mummy?" He said, "I haven't got a mumma."

  • - That's right. - Did you tell him to say that?

  • - No. -What do you think he means when he says, "I haven't got a mother?

  • Like he said, he doesn't have a mother.

  • My kids don't call me mom because I don't want them to.

  • They're not - They're Michael's children.

  • It's not that they're not my children, but I had them because I wanted him to be a father.

  • I believe that there are people who should be parents and he's one of them.

  • He's such a fabulous man, and such a good friend,

  • he's always been there for me, always, from the day I met him.

  • I could do something for him and this is what I wanted to do.

  • Most people think that Michael and Debbie's relationship was very short term

  • Actually, they met over 22 years ago.

  • Was it intense then? No, no, it was over time.

  • I think it was, 18 years, 17, 18 years,

  • that I knew him, when I had Prince.

  • In that time, they've gone on some very unusual outings

  • Often with Michael in disguise.

  • Yeah, he'd call, "What're you doing?" "Nothing, what're you doing?"

  • "Wanna go to the video?" "Yeah." We'd sneak out without security."

  • We got caught. Last time, it was like being chased by people.

  • We'd have to call security, bail us out, but yeah,

  • we'd go out and do stuff, sneaking into premieres and things.

  • Yeah, we had a good time. He's always a lot of fun.

  • When did Michael start talking about wanting to have kids, when he was still with Lisa-Marie?

  • No, they had broken up.

  • I was trying to consult him because he was really upset.

  • He was upset because he really wanted to be a dad.

  • I said, "So be a dad." He looked at me, puzzled.

  • "Let me do this, I want to do this.

  • You've been so good to me, you're </