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  • SASHA GREY: It's not going to matter what

  • magazine says about me.

  • It's not going to matter what TV show says I'm a bad

  • influence on youth.

  • It's really about continuing to just follow my dreams and

  • passions, be myself, and share my voice.

  • I was in college.

  • And I was working six, seven days a week.

  • And if I was by myself, not studying, I was probably

  • watching porn.

  • And it was like, yeah, I like it, and yeah, I can get off.

  • But I felt like there was a creative component missing.

  • And I also had different ideas of what sex was.

  • And I felt sick--

  • you know what I mean?

  • I felt sick to my stomach.

  • I'm like, I'm not supposed to think this way.

  • I was the oldest out of all my friends

  • to lose their virginity.

  • I was 16 and a half.

  • I know that's funny.

  • But I was a senior in high school.

  • I kind of had this very male-driven mentality, like, I

  • don't want to love a boy to have sex with him.

  • And at the same time, I was so conflicted internally.

  • Like, I didn't know how do I go about doing that and just

  • feel safe and feel like I'm in control?

  • So for me, getting in the business was a way to continue

  • exploring those things safely.

  • But then also, I kind of just had this awakening.

  • And I started to really understand the sexual

  • revolution that I so idealized.

  • It doesn't matter what you say to your parents.

  • No parent wants their kid doing porn.

  • I didn't tell them until I had been here for two weeks.

  • Because, like, I want to get down there, and get started,

  • and then tell them.

  • And my mom is Catholic.

  • So that's where the guilt comes from.

  • And my dad was just like, follow your goals

  • and don't fuck up.

  • And it was all in the subtext, like, I'm going to be really

  • fucking disappointed if you fuck up, and do something

  • stupid, and make the wrong mistakes.

  • I showed a series of photos to my literary agent in 2007.

  • And I had been taking photographs onset to just

  • document my environment each day.

  • And they were just, like, for me to look back

  • on when I was older.

  • For me, it was about self-examination in these

  • self-portraits.

  • Some of them look more like a documentary-style photo.

  • But they were completely conceived of.

  • And it's funny, because you could say, no, that's totally

  • candid, right?

  • No, it's not.

  • Or this totally looks like something post-sex.

  • No, it's not.

  • I think what, for me, is kind of important is that it leaves

  • people guessing.

  • I think it shows misconceptions about the adult

  • industry that don't apply to everybody.

  • Right now I'm really focusing on proving myself as an actor.

  • So while going out and looking for roles, the thing that

  • keeps me really going, and driven, and motivated is when

  • I'm not working.

  • Because that's when you want it the most.

  • And that's when you're hungry.

  • And that's when you want to stand up and fucking scream

  • and say, I can do this.

  • So my friend and our writing partner, Anthony, is coming

  • into town today.

  • And we're going to have a three-day writing workshop.

  • So it's really about creating opportunities for myself.

  • 2006.

  • Our band, aTelecine, started making music, and we ended up

  • putting it on MySpace without my name.

  • People liked it.

  • So we were, like, well, OK.

  • What happens when we put Sasha Grey as part of it?

  • And of course, that helped us get our deal

  • with Pendu and Dais.

  • I can't sing, but I sing.

  • I can't play a cool Sabbath song on

  • guitar, but I play guitar.

  • You know what I mean?

  • It's just pure fun.

  • And it became really cathartic.

  • I love Throbbing Gristle, Current 93, Joy Division,

  • Parliament-Funkadelic, NWA.

  • This is what I played this morning before you guys came.

  • Oh, yeah.

  • This one is really good.

  • It's a live Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young.

  • I'm pretty sure somebody did cocaine off of the back of

  • this, because there are literally razor marks on the

  • back of this.

  • DAVID CHOE: Hey.

  • How's it going?

  • SASHA GREY: Good to see you.

  • (BRITISH ACCENT) Thank you for watching Granada Television.

  • Without further ado--

  • oh, wait, sorry.

  • This is Vice, right?

  • I don't think this guy needs an introduction.

  • This is Dave Choe.

  • INTERVIEWER: How do you guys know each other?

  • DAVID CHOE: That actually involves

  • our friend over there.

  • SASHA GREY: James wanted to paint me,

  • because he liked my work.

  • DAVID CHOE: Your work?

  • That's a very interesting--

  • SASHA GREY: It's a very diverse body of work.

  • DAVID CHOE: I went out with Sasha once

  • to the Machete premiere.

  • And so every single person was like, hey!

  • I love your work in Entourage.

  • And I was like, wait.

  • So what did they say before you were in, like,

  • movies and TV shows?

  • And they're like, oh, I love your work.

  • SASHA GREY: People, they want to say it.

  • But they're so polite about it.

  • Because I look like I'll kick someone's ass?

  • DAVID CHOE: I have a radio station upstairs.

  • So we'll do, like, a real interview.

  • This is a radio show that I have that's

  • broadcast to nowhere.

  • You'll probably hear this after the world's exploded.

  • So is it true, this whole journey?

  • You're very determined.

  • You knew, at a very young age, porn, this is

  • what I want to do.

  • And you said, I wasn't going to do it forever.

  • Then you got out.

  • Now you're doing movies, TV shows.

  • The bottom line for all of this is--

  • tell me if this is true.

  • You're working, doing all this stuff to ultimately own a

  • blow-dry salon in Las Vegas?

  • Is that true?

  • That's the golden--

  • SASHA GREY: That was my master plan.

  • DAVID CHOE: That's the golden pot at the end of the rainbow?

  • SASHA GREY: Ah, yes.

  • Because all I care about is hair.

  • DAVID CHOE: Probably one of the best painters I know,

  • James Jean.

  • We were painting her naked in Highland Park.

  • And you were rocking a pretty big bush back then.

  • SASHA GREY: Still am.

  • DAVID CHOE: You brought that back, right?

  • SASHA GREY: I don't know if I

  • single-handedly brought it back.

  • DAVID CHOE: I think a lot of your appeal is that you look

  • like such a nice girl that could be, like, a model for

  • Victoria's Secret or something.

  • And then you always imagine--

  • SASHA GREY: Without the boobs?

  • DAVID CHOE: You got nice boobs.

  • SASHA GREY: Oh, I like my boobs.

  • DAVID CHOE: I mean, you don't look like

  • most porn stars, basically.

  • And you were doing super, like, violent, crazy shit.

  • SASHA GREY: See, violence is the way you like to put it.

  • DAVID CHOE: I don't know.

  • How would you put that?

  • SASHA GREY: No, I mean, I don't think I

  • feel the way you feel.

  • And I think a lot of people expect me--

  • DAVID CHOE: Some of your movies were, like, borderline

  • snuff films, I think.

  • This is the mask I wore in Coachella for Die Antwoord's

  • American debut.

  • [COMPUTER VOICE]

  • SASHA GREY: Ugh!

  • My head is bigger than Dave's.

  • [COMPUTER VOICE]

  • SASHA GREY: Shut up!

  • DAVID CHOE: Now that you're not doing porn, do you feel

  • like there's something missing?

  • Like, you're like, damn, I used to do fucking gangbangs

  • and all this shit, and now--

  • SASHA GREY: No, I think it's more about a new way of

  • discovering sex, because there's no camera there.

  • And I think you get so used to having a camera watching you.

  • And that's part of what makes it exciting.

  • So now it's about finding out ways to make it that exciting.

  • DAVID CHOE: What are these ways?

  • Explain.

  • I want to know these ways.

  • SASHA GREY: It's less about exactly what you're doing, and

  • more about the adrenaline rush that you get.

  • DAVID CHOE: Has it had a real negative effect for what you

  • want to do now?

  • Because I mean, people compare, like, oh, it's Sasha

  • and Jenna Jameson are the two that made it out of this.

  • But yeah, the internet exists.

  • And that will stay with you forever.

  • So you are trying out for, like, mainstream

  • movies and TV shows.

  • Has that caught up to you to the point where people say

  • fucked up shit to you?

  • SASHA GREY: No.

  • Nobody will ever say anything to your face.

  • I think right now it's about proving that

  • I'm not just lucky.

  • Because that's a way a lot of people perceive

  • it as, she's lucky.

  • She got these chances.

  • And any porn star could have done it.

  • So it's about proving that I can go way,

  • way, way beyond that.

  • I mean, sex and money are the two oldest professions.

  • And they've always been part of society.

  • And they've always been part of art in a huge away, even

  • before video, or even before films.

  • DAVID CHOE: Anything else you want to say about whores or

  • married sex life?

  • SASHA GREY: Your blanket looks like it came

  • out of a crack den.

  • DAVID CHOE: Yeah.

  • SASHA GREY: I don't know where you got this thing.

  • DAVID CHOE: This is my spot, right here.

  • SASHA GREY: You just want to put the blanket over the--

  • DAVID CHOE: That's my glory hole.

  • That's, like, you know.

  • I don't like to be touched during sex.

  • I need to be under a lot of fabric.

  • That's my weird shit that I'm into.

  • SASHA GREY: You'd probably like latex, then.

  • DAVID CHOE: Yeah.

  • I like latex.

  • I like masks.

  • I like hiding.

  • SASHA GREY: That's fun.

  • DAVID CHOE: Hit it as hard as you can.

  • [CRASH]

  • [DRUMMING]

SASHA GREY: It's not going to matter what

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