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SASHA GREY: It's not going to matter what
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magazine says about me.
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It's not going to matter what TV show says I'm a bad
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influence on youth.
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It's really about continuing to just follow my dreams and
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passions, be myself, and share my voice.
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I was in college.
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And I was working six, seven days a week.
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And if I was by myself, not studying, I was probably
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watching porn.
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And it was like, yeah, I like it, and yeah, I can get off.
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But I felt like there was a creative component missing.
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And I also had different ideas of what sex was.
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And I felt sick--
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you know what I mean?
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I felt sick to my stomach.
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I'm like, I'm not supposed to think this way.
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I was the oldest out of all my friends
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to lose their virginity.
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I was 16 and a half.
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I know that's funny.
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But I was a senior in high school.
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I kind of had this very male-driven mentality, like, I
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don't want to love a boy to have sex with him.
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And at the same time, I was so conflicted internally.
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Like, I didn't know how do I go about doing that and just
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feel safe and feel like I'm in control?
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So for me, getting in the business was a way to continue
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exploring those things safely.
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But then also, I kind of just had this awakening.
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And I started to really understand the sexual
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revolution that I so idealized.
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It doesn't matter what you say to your parents.
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No parent wants their kid doing porn.
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I didn't tell them until I had been here for two weeks.
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Because, like, I want to get down there, and get started,
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and then tell them.
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And my mom is Catholic.
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So that's where the guilt comes from.
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And my dad was just like, follow your goals
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and don't fuck up.
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And it was all in the subtext, like, I'm going to be really
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fucking disappointed if you fuck up, and do something
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stupid, and make the wrong mistakes.
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I showed a series of photos to my literary agent in 2007.
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And I had been taking photographs onset to just
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document my environment each day.
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And they were just, like, for me to look back
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on when I was older.
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For me, it was about self-examination in these
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self-portraits.
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Some of them look more like a documentary-style photo.
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But they were completely conceived of.
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And it's funny, because you could say, no, that's totally
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candid, right?
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No, it's not.
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Or this totally looks like something post-sex.
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No, it's not.
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I think what, for me, is kind of important is that it leaves
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people guessing.
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I think it shows misconceptions about the adult
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industry that don't apply to everybody.
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Right now I'm really focusing on proving myself as an actor.
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So while going out and looking for roles, the thing that
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keeps me really going, and driven, and motivated is when
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I'm not working.
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Because that's when you want it the most.
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And that's when you're hungry.
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And that's when you want to stand up and fucking scream
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and say, I can do this.
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So my friend and our writing partner, Anthony, is coming
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into town today.
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And we're going to have a three-day writing workshop.
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So it's really about creating opportunities for myself.
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2006.
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Our band, aTelecine, started making music, and we ended up
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putting it on MySpace without my name.
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People liked it.
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So we were, like, well, OK.
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What happens when we put Sasha Grey as part of it?
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And of course, that helped us get our deal
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with Pendu and Dais.
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I can't sing, but I sing.
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I can't play a cool Sabbath song on
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guitar, but I play guitar.
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You know what I mean?
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It's just pure fun.
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And it became really cathartic.
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I love Throbbing Gristle, Current 93, Joy Division,
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Parliament-Funkadelic, NWA.
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This is what I played this morning before you guys came.
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Oh, yeah.
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This one is really good.
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It's a live Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young.
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I'm pretty sure somebody did cocaine off of the back of
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this, because there are literally razor marks on the
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back of this.
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DAVID CHOE: Hey.
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How's it going?
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SASHA GREY: Good to see you.
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(BRITISH ACCENT) Thank you for watching Granada Television.
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Without further ado--
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oh, wait, sorry.
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This is Vice, right?
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I don't think this guy needs an introduction.
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This is Dave Choe.
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INTERVIEWER: How do you guys know each other?
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DAVID CHOE: That actually involves
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our friend over there.
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SASHA GREY: James wanted to paint me,
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because he liked my work.
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DAVID CHOE: Your work?
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That's a very interesting--
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SASHA GREY: It's a very diverse body of work.
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DAVID CHOE: I went out with Sasha once
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to the Machete premiere.
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And so every single person was like, hey!
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I love your work in Entourage.
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And I was like, wait.
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So what did they say before you were in, like,
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movies and TV shows?
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And they're like, oh, I love your work.
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SASHA GREY: People, they want to say it.
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But they're so polite about it.
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Because I look like I'll kick someone's ass?
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DAVID CHOE: I have a radio station upstairs.
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So we'll do, like, a real interview.
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This is a radio show that I have that's
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broadcast to nowhere.
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You'll probably hear this after the world's exploded.
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So is it true, this whole journey?
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You're very determined.
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You knew, at a very young age, porn, this is
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what I want to do.
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And you said, I wasn't going to do it forever.
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Then you got out.
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Now you're doing movies, TV shows.
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The bottom line for all of this is--
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tell me if this is true.
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You're working, doing all this stuff to ultimately own a
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blow-dry salon in Las Vegas?
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Is that true?
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That's the golden--
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SASHA GREY: That was my master plan.
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DAVID CHOE: That's the golden pot at the end of the rainbow?
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SASHA GREY: Ah, yes.
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Because all I care about is hair.
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DAVID CHOE: Probably one of the best painters I know,
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James Jean.
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We were painting her naked in Highland Park.
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And you were rocking a pretty big bush back then.
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SASHA GREY: Still am.
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DAVID CHOE: You brought that back, right?
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SASHA GREY: I don't know if I
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single-handedly brought it back.
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DAVID CHOE: I think a lot of your appeal is that you look
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like such a nice girl that could be, like, a model for
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Victoria's Secret or something.
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And then you always imagine--
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SASHA GREY: Without the boobs?
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DAVID CHOE: You got nice boobs.
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SASHA GREY: Oh, I like my boobs.
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DAVID CHOE: I mean, you don't look like
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most porn stars, basically.
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And you were doing super, like, violent, crazy shit.
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SASHA GREY: See, violence is the way you like to put it.
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DAVID CHOE: I don't know.
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How would you put that?
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SASHA GREY: No, I mean, I don't think I
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feel the way you feel.
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And I think a lot of people expect me--
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DAVID CHOE: Some of your movies were, like, borderline
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snuff films, I think.
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This is the mask I wore in Coachella for Die Antwoord's
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American debut.
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[COMPUTER VOICE]
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SASHA GREY: Ugh!
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My head is bigger than Dave's.
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[COMPUTER VOICE]
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SASHA GREY: Shut up!
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DAVID CHOE: Now that you're not doing porn, do you feel
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like there's something missing?
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Like, you're like, damn, I used to do fucking gangbangs
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and all this shit, and now--
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SASHA GREY: No, I think it's more about a new way of
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discovering sex, because there's no camera there.
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And I think you get so used to having a camera watching you.
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And that's part of what makes it exciting.
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So now it's about finding out ways to make it that exciting.
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DAVID CHOE: What are these ways?
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Explain.
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I want to know these ways.
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SASHA GREY: It's less about exactly what you're doing, and
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more about the adrenaline rush that you get.
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DAVID CHOE: Has it had a real negative effect for what you
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want to do now?
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Because I mean, people compare, like, oh, it's Sasha
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and Jenna Jameson are the two that made it out of this.
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But yeah, the internet exists.
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And that will stay with you forever.
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So you are trying out for, like, mainstream
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movies and TV shows.
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Has that caught up to you to the point where people say
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fucked up shit to you?
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SASHA GREY: No.
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Nobody will ever say anything to your face.
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I think right now it's about proving that
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I'm not just lucky.
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Because that's a way a lot of people perceive
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it as, she's lucky.
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She got these chances.
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And any porn star could have done it.
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So it's about proving that I can go way,
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way, way beyond that.
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I mean, sex and money are the two oldest professions.
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And they've always been part of society.
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And they've always been part of art in a huge away, even
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before video, or even before films.
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DAVID CHOE: Anything else you want to say about whores or
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married sex life?
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SASHA GREY: Your blanket looks like it came
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out of a crack den.
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DAVID CHOE: Yeah.
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SASHA GREY: I don't know where you got this thing.
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DAVID CHOE: This is my spot, right here.
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SASHA GREY: You just want to put the blanket over the--
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DAVID CHOE: That's my glory hole.
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That's, like, you know.
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I don't like to be touched during sex.
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I need to be under a lot of fabric.
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That's my weird shit that I'm into.
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SASHA GREY: You'd probably like latex, then.
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DAVID CHOE: Yeah.
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I like latex.
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I like masks.
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I like hiding.
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SASHA GREY: That's fun.
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DAVID CHOE: Hit it as hard as you can.
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[CRASH]
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[DRUMMING]