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-Spike Lee. Thank you for being here.
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I know we're on Zoom, but I wish I could be
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in the same room with you.
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-Yes, my brother, the world has changed.
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-Yeah. It really has.
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I do want to bring up --
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you're such a powerful director
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and a voice of generation after generation.
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But -- -Going on my fourth --
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-Jimmy I'm going into my fourth decade, my man.
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-Is that crazy how fast time flies.
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-63.
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-No way.
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-Black don't crack. [ Laughing ]
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-No, not at all.
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Honestly, I was watching this thing that you did,
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because I watched this -- Don Lemon did this
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special on CNN, and debuted this short
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called "3 Brothers," where it is -- whew!
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It is -- I just -- speechless.
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What it is, it's basically, it's Radio Raheem,
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Eric Garner, and George Floyd
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all kind of cut in between.
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So it's -- ah, it's just -- it's powerful.
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I did want to show it on our show if you didn't mind.
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-Can I just say one thing first before you show it?
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-Yeah.
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-Radio Raheem is a fictional character
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from my 1980s film "Do the Right Thing."
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But his murder is based upon
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the real life murder of Michael Stewart,
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who was a graffiti artist here in New York City, 1983.
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So that's where I got that deal for the murder of Radio Raheem.
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-Really, where he was choked to death?
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-Yeah, came from Michael Stewart.
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-Did not know that.
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-Yeah, 1983. He was a graffiti artist,
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down in the subway station.
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New York Transit Authority Police jumped on him,
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put him in a stranglehold. and he died in a coma
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like several days after that.
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So Radio Raheem is based -- even though it's fictional,
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it's based upon the real life murder of Michael Stewart,
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and who was good friends with Basquiat, too.
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They were tight. -Really?
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Did you ever think that that would --
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I mean, that things wouldn't change since then and --
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I don't know, I can't even --
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-Jimmy, you know,
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when I saw Eric Garner,
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I'm like, that's -- that's Radio Raheem
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based upon Michael Stewart.
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And then to see our brother King Floyd,
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and I know that he saw what happened
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to Eric Garner. -Yep.
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-So he's seeing that in his mind as his last
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eight and a half minutes
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are being suffocated out of him.
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-Jeez. I want to show everyone this,
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and I do want to warn anyone at home,
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this is graphic, but it's real,
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and it's violence from police officers.
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And -- but watch and see how the film holds up.
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-I'm minding my business, Officer.
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I'm minding my business. Please just leave me alone.
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I told you the last time, please leave me alone.
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Please, don't touch me. [ Bleep ]
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-Hold on, hold on, hold on. -Don't touch me, please.
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-[ Men talking at once ] -Don't touch me.
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[Bleep]
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[ Bleep ] [ Shouting ]
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-Yeah, [bleep], come on!
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-Yo! [ Shouts ] -Do something.
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[ All shouting ]
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[ Bleep ] -...do it!
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-[ Men talking at once ]
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[Bleep]
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-I can't breathe.
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-Get the -- get the -- [ Gasping ]
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-I can't breathe!
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-I can't breathe!
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-[ Gasping ] -Just take him down, man.
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[ Bleep ]
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-[ Speaks indistinctly ] Ah --
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[ Gasping ]
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-Mama!
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-Get up and get in the car right.
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-Back up then get on those steps.
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-Okay. -Get off of him now.
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-You're gonna choke him... -What is wrong with y'all?
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-What the [bleep] He got mace.
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-[ Groaning ] -Get his arm, get his --
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-All he did was break up a fight.
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-[ Grunting ]
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-[Bleep] stopping his breathing right there, bro.
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-I can't breathe.
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-Back up. -Back up.
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-Bro, he's not even [bleep] moving.
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Get off of his [bleep] neck, bro.
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-No! -Radio!
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-[ Grunts weakly ]
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-Radio Raheem!
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-No, bro, look at him, he's non-responsive right now, bro.
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-Sir, it's EMS. Come on. We're here to help, alright?
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[ Shouting ]
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-...back on the street!
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-Don't touch him!
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-You could've at least lifted him up off the ground, bro.
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We wouldn't even have tripped, bro.
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[ Door closes ] [ Bleep ]
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-Yeah, 987. You just killed that [bleep], bro.
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You just killed him, bro.
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-Y'all just really just killed that man.
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-You just really killed that man, bro.
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-Uh, whew!
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It's -- it's jarring, and it's --
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I just think -- I hope that people are --
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that this is the biggest change, this is it.
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This is something. Let's do something. Let's --
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-Well, I think, Jimmy, my brother, people are there.
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I was on my bike yesterday here in Brooklyn and --
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'Cause I was so -- I've seen it, you know,
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we're still in quarantine. -Yeah.
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-But yesterday I said, yo, I got to be in it.
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I had my mask on. -You did it.
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-Yeah, but to see -- and also --
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to see young -- young white generation,
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my sisters and brothers, they're out there.
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It's not just black and brown people.
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So I'm very enthusiastic
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that people around the world
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were galvanized by the horrific murder of George Floyd
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in saying, "No, no, no."
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And also, I think that people are going to come out to vote.
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I'm talking about specifically United States of America,
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people are going to come out and vote and say hell no
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to Agent Orange -- like, you got to go.
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And, you know, that is my hope,
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that's my prayer,
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and our president, President Barack Obama, has said
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that this upcoming presidential election
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is going to be the most important in history
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of the United States of America.
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I want to take it a step further from Barack,
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saying that this presidential election
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will be the most important election
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in the history of the modern world.
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Because he gets elected -- now this is my opinion.
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This guy gets elected, the world is in peril.
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-Yeah. -They tried --
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They had to talk him down for siccing
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national armed forces on peaceful Americans.
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And it's like this guy has never even heard of the Constitution
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of the United States of America. -Yeah.
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-And my question is, what is Bill Barr's job?
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He's supposed to be the attorney general.
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He don't know that? -Jesus.
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-So this is like -- Things are bananas now.
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Bananas. -Yeah. Yeah.
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It just feels like every move is, like,
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more shocking than the next move, and you're like,
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someone has to talk to somebody and say like,
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hey, what you're putting out there is not working.
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So whatever you're doing, this is --
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you got to do something else.
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Or do something different because this is --
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-If I may say, sometimes I just think that
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he should just be quiet.
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-Yeah. -Him.
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To talk about -- to say --
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to speak for George Floyd looking down from heaven
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saying that this is a great day in America?
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Just don't say nothing!
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-Just stop. Just stop. -Stop.
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You should not be talking about --
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you should not be speaking about our brother.
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-No.
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More with Spike Lee when we come back.
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Do you mind, Spike, hanging out for one more segment?
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-I'm here, baby. -I'm so happy.
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Thank you, bud. We'll be right back.