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  • Then the memes came and then a day later

  • kind of took a joyless turn.

  • Yeah yesterday and today right now

  • Yeah, well it's amazing well, so here's the strange thing hey, so

  • I kind of played let's say knight on white horse and

  • so the Guardian yesterday published a

  • Astoundingly reprehensible article -

  • About your book?

  • No, about the Channel 4 interview. No, they've done some nice interviews about my book

  • so they've been kind of all over the place with me you know but

  • the Channel 4 people claim that

  • Kathy has been targeted with threats, you know?

  • A torrent of online abuse by internet trolls, it's like 50,000 trolls. You know that's a lot of trolls

  • You might start thinking maybe they're not all trolls, but in any case

  • overwhelmed by misogynistic abuse and

  • threats and that they had called in a security specialist to assess the level of threat and so

  • It was the beginning of the attempt to twist the story around so that the story became:

  • Kathy Newman -

  • poor embattled Channel 4 newscaster was merely trying to do her job even though she might have been a bit provocative

  • interviewed alt-right hero Dr. Jordan Peterson

  • in an honest manner to to expose his agenda,

  • posted the results to YouTube and was immediately

  • mobbed by his army of

  • Internet trolls right so she went from - so, my sense is she went from

  • journalist playing a variety of complicated games to

  • target of criticism online to

  • heroine

  • embattled heroine in the panoply of

  • martyrs to whom similar things have happened in the past and what's terrible about it -

  • So, and I inadvertently I would say

  • contributed to that because

  • when the Guardian story came out I read it and the story purported to be about the threats that she had received

  • but really this story because the story opened with the description of me and the description was let's call it far from flattery

  • you know, it was the same old thing: Dr. Peterson, he's a provocateur. He has an army of trolls if anybody ever

  • dares to challenge him, let's say, I know all they're doing is honestly

  • charging the trolls come out and then they have to fear for their lives, and that was that was the story

  • (that's the narrative now) the threat that threats were just the

  • prerequisite for the story, and then yeah like a dozen UK news

  • media sources that the newspapers in particular have picked us this up some

  • even more critical of me than that some in a slightly more balanced fashion

  • but and see when the Guardian story broke I tweeted something

  • I said look if you're-- I've looked at the tweet too are they?

  • YouTube comments and most of the more merely criticism, but if you're threatening her

  • well, stop, you know, because

  • we had an exchange of words, which is what we're supposed to do.

  • I think this message to your followers was one of the most liked tweet you ever put out. - Yeah,

  • but here's the terrible thing about it.

  • You know, what happened was that the fact that I tweeted that was instantly used as

  • validation for the claim that there were threats and that was just yeah

  • That's what happened and see it's weird because when I wrote that I thought

  • Was part of me that thought

  • that thought that that might happen there was a little warning bell that went off that said look you know

  • There's no evidence that these threats are credible, and if you respond by

  • asking people to back off

  • You're also implying that there are people who who should back off that this is real, and I thought no

  • I'm gonna do it anyways because

  • She has been targeted

  • She has been subject to a very large number of very vitriolic comments

  • And maybe that's enough and so you know it's okay to come out say that's enough

  • But the thing it wasn't okay because as soon as I did it

  • Then the fact that I did it was

  • Used as proof that all of these claims were valid and now that just floored me like I was very

  • Distraught, I think is the right word about that this morning because I didn't I didn't see that coming

  • >Then were there threats against her have you seen them >define threat fresh suffice

  • There's no threats that were sufficient to get the police involved

Then the memes came and then a day later


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5分間のティーザー - ジョーダン・ピーターソンはチャンネル4のインタビューの論争に答える (5 Minute Teaser - Jordan Peterson Responds to Channel 4 Interview Controversy)

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    林宜悉 に公開 2021 年 01 月 14 日